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I need to know if it really does what it says. Details appreciated. Best answer gets 10 points.
Molly R, if you would, would you please tell me what part of the country you are in?

It made my water taste like metal. Made my throat sore when I drank it. After a shower my skin was red and itchy. My dishes had this scum on them I needed Brillo to get off. I was afraid to give it to my houseplants.

I'm suing them.

That answer your question?

2009-02-22 06:55:44 by rhodeswatson

Water Conditioning Filters vs Obsolete Water Softeners www.wholehousewaterfilternow.c om What are the reason I should buy a new type of water ...

are you directly connected with city water or do you have a well?? It can make a big difference in what type of system and price you gonna have to pay. Are we talking about a system for only drinking water or the entire house system. I live in Central Florida and the city water uses too much chlorine and ammonia which tends to melt the rubber in the toilet flush/pump system. You can use a cheap system like "Brita" if you want to get rid of the aftertaste of the drinking water. They are so many options! Check-in your local yellow pages and get at least 3 estimates. Good Luck!

2006-08-21 07:01:23 by ken w

Price: $24.95

We have very hard water and our regular salt-exchange softener just died. We we looking at replacing it with the same technology, but have seen these electromagnetic systems advertised.

Has anyone purchased one of these? Does it work, or is it "voodoo?" If you believe it works, how can you tell?

Here's some interesting research from scientists who "question" the validity of these "dubious" water treatment systems.

"This page profiles water-treatment schemes other than those involving magnets or magical "catalysts". All of these I consider "dubious" in the sense that there is no credible evidence in the reputable scientific or engineering literature that these devices work, and in most cases there is no reason, based on present scientific knowledge, to believe that they even can work. "

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/aquacrack.html

2007-08-20 11:04:10 by JJ

Price: $99.99

Equipped with filter change reminder and low battery indicator
Extra-large backlit touchscreen for increased visibility and ease of use
Compatible with heating, cooling, and heat-pump systems

The water heater and heating and air conditioning system are independent, except that the heating and air conditioning system has hot water and cold water lines running into it.

its almost sounds as if u have a geo thermal unit or a boiler type unit and if so those lines are needed unless its just a cold water line for a humidifier unit and those u can shut off

2010-01-12 03:01:51 by Carl

I am trying to find the pros and cons of each system. I have just moved to Arizona and am trying to evaluate which water system is better for reducing/eliminating hard water.

Magnetic Water/Fluid Conditioners have been around for much longer than most people are aware. They have now been used worldwide for over a century in both residential and industrial applications.

There are at least 80 patents filed with the US Patent Office just for "Permanent Magnet Fluid Conditioners". One of the first patents on this science was US Patent No. 531,183*, which was filed October 17, 1890 and was granted Dec 18, 1894. One of the newest patents granted in this area is US Patent No. 6,716,346* which was granted April 4, 2004. So these devices have been in use now for 115 years and there are still new patents being applied for. There is a whole other group of patents for these devices that use electro-magnetics in place permanent magnets.

If you do a search for "magnetic water conditioners" you will find (have found) many vendors of these devices that provide explanations of the science behind them (some better than others). What you typically will not find is any real specifications by which you can compare the products of the different vendors of these devices. What is even worse you will typically find statements that says that what ever their competitors are doing just will not work. These statements are just bald face lies that are not backed up by any scientific test data.



HYDROGEN HAS THE STRONGEST RESPONSE TO A MAGNETIC FIELD OF ALL THE ELEMENTS AND IS THE BASIS ON WHICH MAGNETIC RESONANT IMAGING (MRI's) WORKS. Water will respond to any magnetic field it encounters, regardless of how the magnetic field is generated. It does not matter whether permanent magnets, electro-magnets, or superconducting magnets are used to generate the magnetic field. It does not matter whether the magnetic field is generated externally or internally. MRI scanners employ an externally generated magnetic field into which our bodies are placed. Is there any doubt that MRI technology works??? One vendor tells us that clamp on devices (external fields) won't work. Another tells us that magnets that attract won't work. Then another tells us that if the magnets are "too powerful" they won't work. Just keep one thing in mind. THE STRONGER THE FIELD INSIDE THE PIPE, THE STRONGER THE RESPONSE!!



There are only three things that determine how well these devices work. The methods and materials that are used in their construction determine these three things. The three things you need to know and compare are as follows:



Flux Density Inside The Pipe.
Magnetic Field Orientation and Polarity.
Contact Time with the Magnetic Field.
Flux Density and Contact Time have equal influence on the fluid stream. Doubling either one will double the total influence upon the fluid stream, up to the point of saturation. The main difference between the 80 some odd patents on these devices is the Magnetic Field Configuration and the type of material used in their construction. Of course, each vendor claims their configuration is the ONLY one that works. The problem we have with these devices is the lack of a method to directly measure their performance. This opens up the field to wild marketing claims that have no basis in fact. So lets take a closer look at these three things:

Flux Density inside the pipe can be measured with a DC Gaussmeter (Magnetometer). If your plumbing is 3/4" Copper Pipe, you want to know what flux density each device will produce inside your pipe (peak and minimum). One thing to remember is that the Flux Density inside the pipe is ALWAYS less than the Gauss Rating of the magnetic material employed. I am sorry, it does not matter how many magnets you have. If you have 6 N30 Grade 11,000 Gauss Neodymium Magnets you DO NOT HAVE 66,000 Gauss. It's still just 11,000 Gauss magnet material and the flux density inside the pipe will be a lot less than that.

An indirect way of comparing the different devices for this important parameter is to compare the "Pull Force" of the magnets that they use. A large ceramic magnet can have a higher Pull Force than a small Neodymium rare-earth magnet, due to it's size. Yes, size does matter.

There is a direct relationship between the Flux Density inside the pipe and the Pull Force per square inch of the magnets that are used. The Pull Force number takes into account the size and shape of the magnet along with the flux rating of the material from which it is made.

The formula for finding the Pull Force of a cube or bar magnet is as follows:

Pull Force = 0.576 x Br² x (Th) x √‾A where

Br = Flux Rating in KiloGauss

Th = Thickness of Magnetized Surfaces in inches

A = Surface Area (L x W) in inches

A Grade 8 Ceramic Magnet (3,900 Gauss material) that is 4 Inch Long, 1 Inch Wide, and 1 Inch Thick will have a Pull Force as follows:

Pull Force = 0.576 x Br² x (Th) x √‾A

= 0.576 x (3.9)² x (1) x √‾4

= 0.576 x 15.21 x 1 x 2

Pull Force = 17.52 Pounds

That translates into 4.38 Pounds of Pull Force per Square Inch (17.52 lb. ÷ 4")



A N40 Grade Neodymium Magnet that is 2" Long, 1 Inch Wide and .5 Inches Thick will have a Pull Force as follows:

Pull Force = 0.576 x Br² x (Th) x √‾A

= 0.576 x (12.7)² x (.5) x √‾2

= 0.576 x 161.29 x .5 x 1.414

Pull Force = 65.68 Pounds

That translates into 32.84 Pounds of Pull Force per Square Inch (65.68 lb. ÷ 2").



So this Neodymium magnet that is half as long and half as thick as the large Ceramic Magnet has a Pull Force per square inch that is 7.5 times higher than the larger Ceramic magnet.



But, pull force of the magnet is only part of what determines flux density "inside the pipe". What is equally important in achieving a high flux density is the Magnetic Field Configuration and the mounting frame construction.

2006-06-03 08:36:39 by Arizona Kid